God’s Good Word

Recent responses to my posts about the Received Text warrant this response.  The persons who have responded with comments of protest are those who have serious issues with the Word of God.  I will disclose their error in this brief paragraph. One, states on his own blog that there is error in the Word of God, and the actual words of the Bible are unimportant but rather the thoughts, concepts and ideas are important.  Another individual, who, as of right now, left an unapproved comment, approves of and quotes a false teacher on his blog.  Finally, the last commentator, unapproved as of this moment, believes in baptismal regeneration.  They are all of the mindset that bible versions are inconsequential because God is able by His Holy Spirit to reveal the truth from His Word to us.  While it certainly is true that the Holy Spirit reveals His truth to us and will always lead His children to the truth, it is also certain that the enemy has spread much heresy through these false modern versions.   It is of immense importance that we go to the good Word of God to focus on God’s doctrine of His Holy Word.  Here are verses from the Bible that give to us His teaching about His precious and Holy Good Word.

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.  (7)  Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever.  (8)  The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.  Psalm 12:6-8 

Forever, O LORD, Thy word is settled in heaven.  (90)  Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: Thou hast established the earth, and it abides.  (91)  They continue this day according to Thine ordinances: for all are Thy servants. Psalm 119:89-91 

Concerning Thy testimonies, I have known of old that Thou hast founded them forever. Psalm 119:152 

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of Thy righteous judgments endures forever. Psalm 119:160 

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35 

Heaven and earth shall pass away: but My words shall not pass away. Mark 13:31 

God’s Word is pure and preserved by God our Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  He created all things, preserving them by His Word, for the good of His creation.  He preserves His Word for the good of His saints and the salvation of sinners.  We daily see God’s preserving power, we experience it in our lives, why should we think that He has not and will not preserve His Word in its purity as He has promised.  Since He has preserved His Word we can expect that there will be a stream of manuscripts that agree and bring God’s Holy preserved, inspired, inerrant, infallible Word down from the original autographs to His church throughout the ages even to today.  We have those manuscripts in the Received Text.

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides forever.  (24)  For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withers, and the flower thereof falls away: (25) But the word of the Lord endures forever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.  1Peter 1:23-25 

The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: (7) The grass withers, the flower fades: because the spirit of the LORD blows upon it: surely the people is grass.  (8)  The grass withers, the flower fades: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. Isaiah 40:6-8 

Righteous art Thou, O LORD, and upright are Thy judgments.  (138)  Thy testimonies that Thou hast commanded are righteous and very faithful.  (139)  My zeal hath consumed me, because mine enemies have forgotten Thy words.  (140)  Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loves it. Psalm 119:137-140

It is God’s good Word which He uses to convert sinners and bring them to salvation through faith in His Glorious Son Jesus Christ.  It is the gospel preserved in the Holy Word of God that convicts sinners of their sins causing them to repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ.  That Christ Jesus died upon the cross for our sins and rose again from the dead for our justification.  Without the preservation of God’s Holy Word we would be without the His glorious gospel.  Indeed, many are apostate within the church today because they are deceived by the false teaching that is coming forth from these modern versions.  Many false converts populate today’s apostate visible church where verses from the modern versions are displayed upon the screen, used to espouse the latest, greatest teaching from the fallen heart of man.  There is a standard though, and that standard is found in the Received Text faithfully translated into the English language in the King James Version.  We must always avail ourselves of God’s Word to be faithful to our wonderful God the Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20 

But He answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4 

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD.  (9)  For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.  (10)  For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returns not thither, but waters the earth, and makes it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: (11) So shall My word be that goes forth out of My mouth: it shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isaiah 55:8-11

God uses His good Word to minister to our hearts and minds as those who are saved and for those who need salvation.  Many times I am blessed by the posts that I read on the blogs of others.  So many are so talented, humorous, wise, godly and encouraging.  However, truthfully, it is the good Word of God that He uses to nourish my soul.  It is His Good Word that makes me want to know Him better and serve Him more faithfully.  I delight my soul in God’s good Word and that is one reason why to me it is so necessary to stand up for the truth of His Word, so that others can find that same delight.

For all those things hath Mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembles at My word…(5)  Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at His word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for My name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but He shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. Isaiah 66:2 & 5 

This delight for God’s good Word doesn’t originate within my own heart, but it is a gift that He has given to me through His Indwelling Holy Spirit.  Indeed, this same gift is given to all of His children who are born again through repentant faith in His Son Jesus Christ.  My beloved brothers and sisters, this is why there is division.  It is the dividing line of the truth of the Word of God that separates the wheat from the chaff.  This truth is given to us for our sanctification.  If it is powered to us by the sanctifying work of the Son of God, then how could we reasonably think that there has ever been a time when God’s good Word has not been available for His beloved children?

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.  (17)  Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy word is truth.  (18)  As thou hast sent Me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.  (19)  And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. John 17:16-19 

Now this holy line of demarcation that divides between the false and the true, the counterfeit and the genuine is attested by God’s Holy Word as being without error, without a lie.  After the following verse, I want to demonstrate for you the difference between God’s good Word and the counterfeit modern versions based upon a corrupted text so that you can see how so many lies have been incorporated into the visible church ravaging untold damage in the lives of so many and dooming the unrepentant to damnation.  I will include the link to this information at the end of this post so you can acquire it for yourselves.

But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.  (21)  I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 1 John 2:20-21 

The following are select verses from the gospels of Matthew and Luke from the KJV, ESV, and NIV.  Please take note of the insidious nature of the changes and how those changes affect the sound doctrine of God’s Holy Word.  The first passage is from the KJV, while the other versions are labeled.  The portion that has been changed from the KJV is highlighted by bold underline.

Gospel of Matthew

1) Mt. 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

ESV  1:25  but knew her not until she had given birth to  a son. And he called his name Jesus.

NIV  1:25 But he had no union with her until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

2) Mt. 5:22   But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

ESV 5:22  But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

NIV 5:22  But  I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

3) Mt. 5:44   But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

ESV  5:44  But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

NIV 5:44  But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

4) Mt. 6:13  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.

ESV  6:13   And lead us not into temptation,  but deliver us from evil.

NIV  6:13   And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one

5) Mt. 6:27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

ESV  6:27  And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?

NIV   6:27 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?

6) Mt. 6:33   But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

ESV  6:33   But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

NIV  6:33  But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

7) Mt. 8:2  And,  behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

ESV   8:2  And  behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.”

NIV   8:2  A  man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

8) Mt. 8:29  And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

ESV  8:29 And behold, they cried out, “What have you to do with us, O Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?”

NIV 8:29 “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”

9) Mt. 9:13   But go ye and learn what that means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

ESV 9:13  Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”

NIV  9:13  But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

11) Mt. 12:35   A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

ESV  12:35 The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil.

NIV  12:35 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.

13) Mt. 13:51   Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.

ESV  13:51 “Have you understood all these things?” They said to him, “Yes.”

NIV  13:51 “Have you understood all these things?” Jesus asked. “Yes,” they replied.

Gospel of Luke

3) Lk 2:33  And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

ESV  2:33  And his father and his mother marveled at what was said about him.

NIV  2:33 The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him.

4) Lk. 4:4  And  Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

ESV 4:4  And  Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone.”’

NIV  4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone.’”

This partial list was taken from a extensive, but not complete, compilation put together by Art K. found a Lighthouse Trails.  The link to the article is provided below.  Through comparing these various verses from the three versions we see that major doctrines of the Scripture are under attack, the most blatant being the deity of Jesus Christ.  Next, the doctrines of sin and repentance are weakened, and the very first verse that was altered allows for the acceptance of the Catholic doctrine of the perpetual virginity of Mary, the mother of Jesus.  Notice also how the modern versions leave out every word of God being the source of life.  That is what these modern versions have done through the crafty design of Satan working through his ambassadors of wickedness, Westcott and Hort, and all those proponents of textual criticism who with the swipe of their pens dethrone the good Word of God from its high and lofty place in the hearts and minds of men.  Don’t we see the fallout all around us of this dastardly scheme?  I want to end this post with this precious passage from God’s good Word that He gave me many years ago in answer to my prayer for a life verse.  This passage somehow showed up in my possession type written on a piece of onionskin paper.  How amazing is our God?

O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day.  (98)  Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.  (99)  I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.  (100)  I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.  (101)  I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word.  (102)  I have not departed from thy judgments: for thou hast taught me.  (103)  How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!  (104)  Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. Psalm 119:97-104

Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for always and ever leading me from the false way and lovingly establishing me in Your truth.  I love You Lord Jesus Christ and praise You for Your goodness to me.  I pray that many will be blessed by You for Your glory and their edification.  Amen!

The English Standard Version (ESV) Study Bible. “A Dream Come True”? – UPDATED

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32 Responses to God’s Good Word

  1. unworthy1 says:

    Excellent post Eliza. I find it very interesting that various verses from different translations have omitted key words which change the meaning of the text entirely.
    I also think Dr. James White is being used by Satan to discredit the KJV. I do not care for him, I find him to be very arrogant and puffed up. Regardless, his staunch argument for the modern translations is shameful.

    There is so much deception in the visible church – Christ warned His disciples of this in Matthew 24:4. The ignorance of the truth of God’s word is due in part to an accursed gospel- one that states the sinner has the ability to ‘do something’ in order to be saved. False converts defend that which is false and dangerous. Praise God He gives His elect discernment.

    May the Lord strengthen you as you come under attack for exposing that which is false, and dangerous.

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  2. messiah gate says:

    Hi Eliza,

    Just some clarification. You mentioned the commenter who believes in baptismal regeneration, and since I made reference to that subject in a hypothetical manner I just wanted to say you are quite right about the thief on the cross.

    I apologize if my comment was misunderstood.

    Though we have to be sensitive to the command of our Lord, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing (immersing) them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19 — KJV).

    My point was simply this, to transliterate the word baptisma into baptism rather than properly translate the word into “immersion” does willful violence to the text; and was a deceptive measure to uphold the practice of the Church of England to sprinkle new converts.

    By your grace may I address the notation of Matthew 1:25? Is it “son”, or as KJV reads, “firstborn son”?

    Please don’t cast stones, but the oldest and best manuscripts read only “son”.

    “Firstborn son” was inserted in the 2nd century by Tatian who attempted to harmonize the four Gospels. He borrowed from Luke 2:7 (“And she gave birth to her firstborn, a Son”) in order to convey to Matthew’s Jewish readers the consecration (or birthright) of Yeshua.

    King James copied “firstborn” specifically to challenge the Romish doctrine of Mary’s perpetual virginity, but it appears nowhere in the Greek text.

    Eliza, I value and appreciate your sincerity and thank you for permitting me to comment. I am your brother in Christ.

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    • Eliza says:

      You say oldest and best but they aren’t, they disagree amongst themselves and disagree from the traditional text that has 99% agreement. Again the manuscripts you allude to, the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus, or B and Aleph, disagree amongst themselves in the gospels in over 3000 places and diverge from the Traditional text as evidenced in my latest post, which shows a fraction of that disagreement. The fact that Tatian made a harmony of the four gospels in the 2nd century proves their existence before then, and you (or someone) are assuming that he inserted that into the text.
      You have to keep in mind that textual scholars agree that the greatest alterations to the text of the NT were made during the first and second centuries, after that the practice pretty much ceased since the heretics couldn’t sell their counterfeit copies anymore. Again, what you claim to be the oldest and the best was rejected by Erasmus and the Reformers, well B anyway, which is the manuscript that Holt relied upon the most in his Critical Greek New Testament translation, because it was considered a corruption. The oldest and the best manuscripts come from the tampering hands or Origen who was a gnostic heretic who lived from 185-284. That is why these older texts are somewhat preserved, because no one used them. The fact that the majority of the MSS are more recent copies attests to the fact that the older copies were worn out by use or destroyed through the persecuting force of the heretical church system. HMMMM! So much for the oldest and the best.

      The term “firstborn is in the Textus Receptus and the Byzantine Text, the Traditional Text, which represents the majority of the texts and has 99% agreement between the words, and the Peshitta, which predates your oldest and best manuscripts has firstborn son. So I am sorry but you are just wrong. I hope that you can stand correction without considering it to be casting stones.

      Please don’t try to use the recession argument with me about the Peshitta because it has been proven to be a fabrication by Hort to undermine the attestation to the Byzantine Text, which underlies the Textus Receptus, from which the KJV is translated. It does matter immensely which version we use. We are either using God’s Holy Word or a corrupt perversion promoted by unregenerate men who despised the Traditional Text because it is the Word of God, preserved, inerrant, infallible, inspired given to God’s saints for their edification and for the salvation of sinners. The Word of God is either beloved by His saints or rejected by the ain’ts. Amen!

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    • gracealone1 says:

      “…the oldest and best manuscripts read only ‘son’.” Then your ‘oldest and best manuscripts’ do not pass the test of fulfilling the prophecy of Mary being a virgin. It calls into question the virginity of Mary, for it’s ambiguity on the subject jumps out at anyone who has studied the Scriptures. A ‘son’, a second son, a fifth son, a son after a daughter, who is to say? BUT GOD SAID, “her FIRSTBORN Son.” And not just a ‘son’, but “Son”. If Jesus Christ were not the firstborn Son then He would not be the rightful heir to throne of David as promised. If He were not the firstborn how could the NECESSARY virginity of Mary be established? It could then easily be said that He was just a man born of two earthly parents just like everyone else after Adam and Eve and as ‘just a man’ could not, would not be the Son of God incarnate.

      It makes a huge (eternal) difference whether or not the Word of God says “son” or “firstborn Son”. By this one thing alone those versions that say only “son” expose themselves as the work of the devil. By saying only “son” you attempt to destroy the doctrine of the Virgin Birth AND the doctrine of the Son of God. Can a real Christian do this and not be torn up inside?

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      • Eliza says:

        Believers in their God and Savior Jesus Christ do not countenance such profound profanity! Amen!

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      • messiah gate says:

        It’s established in Scripture that Mary was a virgin. The Bible is unambiguous on that fact. Luke 2:7 validates that Jesus was her firstborn (πρωτότοκον, prōtotokon).

        That “firstborn” does not appear in Matthew, but was inserted by a copyist for the reasons I stated, does not negate what has already been confirmed.

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        • Eliza says:

          What you are saying is a blatant lie. I looked at the Peshitta, the Byzantine, and the TR and they all say firstborn son. It is there in the text if anyone cares to see it. What you have to say is contrary to the Scriptures, brings the reliability of God’s Word into disrepute and furthers the work of the enemy of our souls.

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  3. Good Work! If Satan counterfeits all that God does, it is reasonable to argue that he will transform himself into an angel of light and counterfeit the Scriptures. You are quite correct; the key argument in defence of the Received Text is the doctrine of Divine Preservation. Those who argue in favour of Modern Translations favour a Greek Text which was hidden and unread for hundreds of years; Why? Because the Church rejected these manuscripts. God does not give his Word in order to hide it so that future generations will have a more accurate Scripture than their forefathers. Instead as a result of Satan’s work, this generation follows a confusing Scripture with spurious readings and contradictions. Thank God for the clarity of the AV / KJV.

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  4. gracealone1 says:

    This insane notion that the Bible is available to us only to convey ideas or concepts is just another lie from the pit of hell. The first verses Eliza referred to in this post are sufficient to totally destroy that idiocy. Surprisingly, the revisionists have not changed this verse also to read: ‘The concepts of the Lord are pure concepts’ OH, WAIT! The NIV has done just that! The NIV v.7 reads: “O Lord, you will keep us safe and protect us from such people forever.” Never mind that the NIV rips the context to shreds, it’s aim is to alter and demean the Word of God thereby altering and demeaning God Himself. Reading all of Psalm 12 the context is easy to spot: faithless, perverted, arrogant, self-sufficient men are attacking the few that are faithful (David) and the Lord’s defense of His own is HIS WORD—–always has been and always will be the only defense we have or need. It is the Sword of His mouth that the Lord uses to slay His opponents (Rev. 19:15 and Isa. 11:4) and this is why the wicked one and his servants are in an uproar to change the Word of God anyway they can, thinking that this will diminish His Power over them, just because they said so—Psa. 12:4, “Who have said, ‘With our tongue we will prevail; Our lips are our own; Who is lord over us?'” This same arrogance is on full display by those who argue for “revisions” or “clarifications” or “better interpretations” or whatever other notion they can put forth to call God a liar—and that is what it’s all about anyway, calling God a liar. Bottom line, verse seven is referring to the Word of God, not people.

    There is another verse worth considering. Looking first at Phil. 2: 9-11 we find that the Father has highly exalted His Son, Jesus Christ above every other name and will cause all men to bow before Him, and confess that He is Lord to the glory of God the Father. [Keep in mind that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever, Heb. 13:8] Looking at Psa. 138:2 we find that “You have magnified Your Word above all Your name.” Is not Jesus Christ THE Word of God? John 1:1. Is He not preserved, kept, untarnished, incorruptible? But now we have these ‘educated beyond their intelligence’ folk who tell us that what we are reading is not really the Word of God and to top it off they also say that we cannot really know what God has said—-ever. Liars! ALL! They seem to have never read Rev. 22:18 & 19 or Deut. 4:2 & 12:32. Instead, they have constructed a golden calf for all to fall down before and worship. This calf is their supposed “superior intellect”, their enlightened view of some ‘new findings’ in long hidden manuscripts that only they pass along to us poor, ignorant, unenlightened believers. Yet they only display their total ignorance of who God is: He is faithful, never changing, always right and righteous and is the One who laughs at their puny efforts to change His character to fit their calf (Psa. 2:1-4; 37;12 & 13).

    It is good to see the heathen rage in this matter, for they only expose themselves for the pretenders to the faith that they are. Those genuine believers who have fallen prey to these lies will soon enough find themselves on their faces in repentance and will know the lovingkindness of our Lord afresh. Below is a link to the most comprehensive look at the perversions of the Word I have found. The most revealing word in all of it is “omitted”

    http://www.seekgod.ca/topicbible.htm

    In the middle of the page see “chart 1” chart 2, etc.

    Darrel

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    • Eliza says:

      Well said Darrel. Thank you for your comment and the link. God bless you mightily as you contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints. Amen!

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    • Eliza says:

      I have gone to that link before, it has much good information on it. I have bookmarked it for future reference. Thank you again dear brother. Amen!

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  5. Your life verse is apt, Eliza! Psalm 119 is important in my life too because it quickened me – especially,

    Psalm 119:71
    It is good for me that I have been afflicted;
    that I might learn thy statutes.

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  6. Bob Wheeler says:

    For the record, I did not say that “there are errors in the Word of God.” What I hold to is:
    1) No modern printed edition of the New Testament text (Including Erasmus’) perfectly contains what was written in the original manuscripts, and
    2) No English translation is perfect.
    Let’s go by what the Bible says, and not add to it our human, man-made theories! Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the King James Version is inerrant.

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    • gracealone1 says:

      And yet by your words you have betrayed yourself: “I did not say that there are errors in the Word of God” and the next line is: “No modern printed edition…blah, blah, blah” then you say “No English translation is perfect”. Open mouth, insert foot. Your word are that of a man who has no faith whatsoever. May you find the Lord’s mercy.

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    • gracealone1 says:

      Don’t you understand that by saying that “No English translation is perfect” you have just called God a liar? You have accused Him of not only being unfaithful to fulfill His promise that is seen in Psa. 12, but also that He is unable to provide His Word to the ones that He has saved. Better yet, how can anyone be saved apart from hearing the Word of God which you claim is not reliable. Oh what insanity! How can you even know the God you claim to speak about? You have produced a god that is weak, inept, and powerless. Your premise is that if one does read and understand Greek, and Hebrew (don’t forget Aramaic) then he is at the mercy of those that do and not under the watchful eye of his Father—–no thank you.

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      • Eliza says:

        Amen, as those, I think it might have been Bob, have encouraged me to look at the original Greek and Hebrew, I have responded with why, since faithful men have already translated the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic into English for me in the KJV. Men, who by God’s providential provision were exceptionally equipped for this task. Why should I have to gainsay what they have done since I am not equipped by my God for that work and that would just be arrogant presumption on my part. Amen!

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    • Eliza says:

      It does say that God’s Word is inerrant and we have only ever had copies and God, of course, knows that to be the case so, yes, He has preserved His Word, just as He promised, His inerrant, infallible, inspired, preserved Holy Word. If you don’t believe this then you don’t believe that we have extant today, as has always been, the pure Word of God. Amen!

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  7. messiah gate says:

    I plead for peace, everyone. Some of the comments on these posts display an unforgiving lack of Christian charity.

    “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another (John 13:35 — KJV).

    Insults and sarcasms are beneath true disciples of Christ. Frankly, I have never encountered King James Only proponents, and this is rather shocking to me.

    So, KJV relies on the Textus Receptus or the “received texts” compiled by Erasmus in 1514 AD. But Erasmus revised his Greek New Testament in 1522 AD after the publication of the Polyglot Bible which was also used by William Tyndale.

    And TR is superior because Origen corrupted the older Alexandrian text? Well, the Byzantine Type was influenced by Arian, Nestorian, Apolonarian, and Marcionite heretical corruptions. And of Origen, what were the thoughts of Erasmus?

    In his Paraclesis to the NT, Erasmus wrote: ‘If you refer to commentaries, choose out the best, such as Origen (who is far above all others)” (Hexter, Traditions, II, p. 301).

    Eugene Rice pointed out that we “find Erasmus relying on the authority of Origen when he condemned Luther in 1524” (Saint Jerome, pp. 91-92).

    John Gleason noted that “Erasmus thought one page of Origen worth ten of Augustine” (John Colet, pp. 262-263).

    KJV-only author Peter Ruckman noted that the hero of Erasmus was Origen (King James Onlyism, p. 10).

    Erasmus had a singular goal which was to quickly publish a Greek New Testament that underwent several revisions. And we forget that the Geneva Bible (1553 AD) became the official Bible under the reign of Queen Elizabeth I prior to the crowning of James whose expedient motivation was not the integrity of Scripture but the preservation of the throne in resistance to Papal authority.

    It can be frightening to take off the blinders and see that we have become Pharaiscal in the rigidity of our thoughts to the point of legalistic exclusion.

    I can read in varied translations that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was crucified, buried, resurrected, and ascended into heaven where He sits at the right hand of the Father. I believe this Gospel to be true and, in this way, God has preserved His word. But all of my faith (and knowledge) means nothing if I have not love (1 Corinthians 13:2).

    Peace and love, my brothers.

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    • gracealone1 says:

      Don’t you just love it when a kid gets his hand caught in the cookie jar and screams that people are mean to him for telling what he is doing is wrong? Next words out of his mouth to his mom would likely be “you don’t love me any more”. If your are going to spout fairy tales then expect to get called out. Playing the “peace and love” card is meaningless when all your other words cast doubt on the veracity of the Word of God and it’s Author. Instead of addressing my concerns in my previous comment, you simply proceed to garbage pile #2. The “love” you demand to be shown is no love at all, rather it is a capitulation to the nonsense you spout “in the name of Jesus”. Real, godly love does not lie, but speaks the truth. “Speaking the truth in love” does not equate to mushy, sentimental, and useless “love” that you and others say a real Christian should exhibit even in the face of lies and heresy. Perhaps it would do you good to read all four of the Gospels in the NT and count how many times Jesus showed this type of “love” to the religious elites of His day that only sought to trap Him in His words or otherwise attempt to degrade Him. Don’t worry, you won’t run out of fingers, ’cause the answer is zero out of the 102 examples found. But now you require me and others to mushy love you and allow more of your junk theology. Since all you have done is question the veracity of the Word, why should anyone put up with that? Where do the questions stop and who set the boundaries? You? I do not expect you to repent for it is highly likely that you have long ago insulted the Spirit of grace beyond redemption. That’s blaspheme of the Holy Spirit. [Aren’t you glad I’m not the judge of that?] It is hoped that those who are being carried about by this “wind of doctrine” of yours will readily see the fallacy of it and turn away from it and you.

      Darrel

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      • Eliza says:

        Amen! Thank you Darrel for your able reply. We must also keep in mind that the God of peace, Jesus Christ, has/had no peace for those who oppose Him and His truth. He came to testify of/to the truth and we can do no less. We cannot countenance those who blaspheme God by calling into question His Holy Word that promises to preserve His Word for us to all generations, and has accomplished through the TR and the faithful translation of the KJV, which by the way was done with the full knowledge of all the citizens of England, because the translators made it available to them as they produced it. These translators, by the way, are the ones who wanted a new translation and approached the king, not vice versa. This work, the KJV was gladly received by the people and had to be reprinted over and over again.
        This is so opposite of the saga of Westcott-Hort who did their work against the commission they had been given (they were commissioned to us the TR, but Hort hated that text being an unbeliever) and produced their corrupt Critical New Testament Greek Lexicon surreptitiously and gave the world the RSV which was soundly rejected by God’s people. So lets see godly men who did their work in the light of day with the utmost reverence for God’s Holy Word and their work gladly welcomed by the English speaking people as opposed to unregenerate men who did their work in a clandestine manner treating God’s Word with the arrogance of fallen man whose work was roundly rejected. Now who are you going to trust? I trust God! Amen!

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  8. Eliza says:

    Why, then did Erasmus reject Codex B which is relied upon so heavily by the textual critics in putting together the “authentic text?” Why did he count it amongst those manuscripts that are spurious? You quote the biblical heretics regarding Erasmus, but I can quote biblicists who will say the opposite. Which one is true? The ones who despise God’s Word and call it into question, or the ones who believe that God has preserved His Holy Word?
    This Codex B has been proven to be the corruption that proceeded from the pen of Origen. All I can say is that you quote men who are heretical in their treatment of the text of the New Testament, and that your preference for the counterfeit Alexandrian text betrays where your loyalties lie. Your last statement is at variance with what God has said in His Holy Word, that He would preserve His Word.
    Now this isn’t from me, but from a wonderful book that I am reading written by a godly man, Floyd Nolan Jones, who has displayed the emptiness of your vain argument.
    When Jesus quoted the Scripture of His day, did He quote the original or did He quote what was written? You must realize that He said, “It is written”, thus making the copies of the OT that had been providentially preserved the Word of the Living God. Do you see that? He quoted the Scripture verbatim, stating it is written. He was quoting the written text as the Word of God, and that written text was from copies because the original was no longer extant. We can demolish your high and lofty arguments against the knowledge of God from His Holy Word.
    Here is another important example:
    But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; (15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:14-17
    Was God through Paul pointing Timothy to the original writings of the OT, or the copies? He was pointing Timothy to the copies, which, because God has promised to preserve His Word are the inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of the Living God! Now either the copies were/are the preserved Word of the Living God wholly inerrant, infallible, inspired, or God, through Paul, was lying to Timothy and all the elders/pastors of His Church, the truly regenerate, down through the ages. You cannot have it both ways. The originals being preserved in copies has always been God’s providential plan of supplying His Holy Word extant for His people.
    You deprecate God’s Holy Word by referring to those who believe what He has said in His Word, that He will preserve His Word, as KJV onlyists. Yes, this is the attack of those who cannot stand in the light of the Holy Word of God and do not believe that it is such. You also go against the belief of God’s saints and His divines through the ages who have upheld the doctrine of the preservation of the Word of God.
    This is a work that God did in my heart early on, though I wasn’t aware of all that it entailed, but I always have confessed, since that time, that we have extant, ready at our hands for us to read, study, memorize and cherish, God’s Holy infallible, inerrant, inspired, preserved Word. Your comments are without merit and have no witness within God’s Word against this biblical doctrine. The only witness you are able to come up with is the vain wranglings of men devoid of the Spirit who think that godliness is a means of financial gain.
    When the integrity of God’s Word is at stake there can be no peace with those who attack it. To do so is to side with the enemy of our souls.

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  9. I still believe it is important to be civil to others. If any one of us is in error shouldn’t we be restored in a spirit of gentleness?

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  10. Eliza says:

    Yes, but the repeated attack upon the Word of God and blatant lies is meant to deceive and lead astray. Looking at the Scriptures the greatest censor is landed upon those who do this. It is important to differentiate between a humble and willing heart and an obstinate and rebellious heart. Maybe God will give this individual repentance and return to His truth, but he is being warned that his work is a deceptive one and leads to the result which we see throughout the visible church, unbelief and apostasy. This is much more serious then being censorious towards one who promotes error that has its origin, as all lies do, the enemy of our souls.

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    • Eliza, I get it. To undermine the trust of others in the reliability of God’s Word is wrong, it is harming God’s little ones which Jesus forbid in the strongest terms. However, some believers don’t know what you have learned and are trusting the Lord nevertheless, and if they are decried as heretics, worse yet as blasphemers, especially of the Holy Spirit, they won’t be able to hear you – they will know they are God’s children and merey be offended instead of being helped to grow. There is a way to say things. Some people need and benefit from rebuke, others from persuasion.

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      • Eliza says:

        I agree. That is why I tried to give explanation. But I know that the commentator lied about Matthew 1:25. I just don’t know if it was intentional or not. Either way he is taking the position that we do not have God’s preserved, infallible, inerrant, inspired Word which is a grievous sin against our God and our beloved brethren. Thank you so much for reading and taking the time to comment. I appreciate your heart and desire to see the erring return to the truth which is also my desire. Christ’s richest blessings to you for your love for Him and for others. Amen!

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        • Thank you for blessing me, Eliza – and for your patience with me!
          About Matt. 1:25 and Luke 2:7 – the inclusion of “firstborn” is crucial, because Scripture confirms Scripture. In no way should it read “a son”.
          In all of this I realize you have studied this issue and grasp it, and perhaps for this reason I shouldn’t comment. Sometimes I just want to say, take a deep breath, Eliza, because sometimes in this battle we can forget that we’re talking to individuals.
          May the Lord return His children to simplicity of faith. He will do this I’m certain because He is conforming us to His Son, His Beloved, Only Begotten, the Lord Jesus Christ! It may go hard on us in His discipline.

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          • Eliza says:

            Realize I battle the false teaching. Realize that it is bowing to the enemy to concede anything that is false. Also, just as Westcott and Hort hid their malfeasance behind a veil of religious piety to infect the Church with their false teaching, realize that the agents of Satan always appear as ministers of righteousness, and couch their wickedness in appeals to love and peace. This is their tactic to silence or blunt the rigorous refutation of the lies that they promote. I appreciate your input on Matthew 1:25 and Luke 2:7. Blessings dear sister in the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen!

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  11. Eliza says:

    One other thought, the argument for the modern versions has been the predominant voice within the visible church so that faith in the Word of God has been overthrown in the hearts and minds of so many. Why else would so much false teaching that contradicts the Scripture abound? The refutation must be rigorous because of the tactics the enemy has used to blunt the truth against their lies. Imagine that one precious soul who has felt this assault upon their precious faith is now buoyed by the truth. Oh how precious is the work of the Holy Spirit in the hearts and minds of His children. We must always prefer the faith of the faltering due to the lies of the enemy over and against the baseless arguments of the practical apostate. Amen!

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  12. Eliza, there are truths that I fight for strongly but this truth, that we can trust that we’ve been given His Perfect Word, is foundational.
    Have a restful, blessed Lord’s day!

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